Creating Second Backup

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    Anton

    Why do you call the setup above a second backup?

    The first HD is the original photo library and the second HD is a mirrored backup of it.

    I am looking for a way to really create an additional, second backup. One that can be stored somewhere else in case something happens to the whole device with both disks.

    Any best practice recommendations?

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    King Pi

    @Anton
    The photo library is not source of your photos but backup of them, isn't it?
    I don't see photo library and backup contradict with each other.

    No recommendation on your request though. Sorry.

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    Anton

    I think most people wouldn't describe the photo library as a backup, but more as a large curated collection they created over time.

    The same as you would't call a playlist a backup of the songs in there. 

    A lot of things in the photo library (albums, removal of photos with insufficient quality, tags and other metadata) are even done in Monument itself for the first time and that information doesn't exist anywhere else.

    So of course the library is an original that has to be backuped itself. Which is done my Monument with the mirroring. But as you said: "sometimes, you may want a backup of your backup". 

    And you might wan't to store one of those backups in another location, just to be sure (for example: when I lose that data my kids have nothing to remember their childhood!).

     

     

    I just found something that halfway answers that part of my original question: 

    http://support.getmonument.com/support/discussions/topics/19000015804

    But it still looks like I have to take one of the HDs out and make a copy to an external drive on a computer. That copy can then be stored somewhere else. I cannot make another copy on the Monument directly. Am I right?

    Or if I chose to sacrifice the continuous mirroring, I could eject the second drive, store it somewhere and plug it back in from time to time to update the backup on it. Would that work, if it didn't mirror all the changes as they happened?

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    Hugh Cruse

    Is the entire drive mirrored or just the contents of what monument has cataloged? (I have some videos in formats that aren't currently supported by Monument copied onto the primary drive)

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    Hunter

    @HughCruse

    Hi there! Just the contents of what Monument has backed up will be mirrored (not other files/folder on the drive).

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    Anton

    As imported folders are not copied to the Monument folder, does that mean they also are not backed up?

    https://help.getmonument.com/hc/en-us/articles/115001543034-Import-A-Folder-From-Hard-Drive-

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    Anton

    And because I just read the old stuff again and I see that obviously nobody got my point, I would like to answer the question of King Pi in a simpler way.

    “The photo library is not source of your photos but backup of them, isn't it?”

    No. Monument is not a backup system, it’s an archive. It offers you to store your photos which you then can delete “to free space”. So the source doesn’t exist anymore. Monument has now the original.

    It is an archive that has its own integrated backup (second HD). But there is no backup of that backup yet.

    Though there are remote backups on the roadmap I am looking for the best way to do it until then.

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    King Pi
    @Anton
    "As imported folders are not copied to the Monument folder, does that mean they also are not backed up?"
     
    Imported folder is not in Monument folder but it is imported to Monument so it will be backed up to 2nd HD. You can eject the 2nd HD and take a look. There is imported folder as well.
     
     
    It seems you want an extra backup physically apart from Monument, am I right? 
    Not sure whether Monument desktop will have this feature.
     
    For the moment, I think the most efficient way is ejecting harddisk and copying its content to another harddisk through PC or harddisk duplicator. 
     
     
    "Or if I chose to sacrifice the continuous mirroring, I could eject the second drive, store it somewhere and plug it back in from time to time to update the backup on it. Would that work, if it didn't mirror all the changes as they happened?"
    I just tried it. The steps are:
    1. Eject 2nd harddisk
    2. Import some photos to Monument
    3. Plug in 2nd harddisk again and wait for synchronization finished(I only imported 4 photos so it did so fast that I don't know how long it took)
    4. Eject 2nd harddisk and plug it to PC to check existence of those photos
     
    The new-imported photos are in 2nd harddisk. So, yes, you can store 2nd harddisk somewhere else and plug it to Monument occasionally to backup photos:)
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    Anton

    Thanks King Pi!

     

    "It seems you want an extra backup physically apart from Monument, am I right?"

    Yes, you are right. 

     

    "Not sure whether Monument desktop will have this feature."

    For me its looked like that on the roadmap where it says:

    Local backups (Mirroring) ✅ ✅
    To NAS devices Q1 2018 Q1 2018
    Remote backups Q1 2018 Q1 2018

    Or what do you think of that?

     

    Still, what you described doesn't sound too bad. I think I could remove and clone the second HD from time to time. 

    A more automated process would be great though.

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    King Pi

    @Anton

    Remote backups sounds like the one you want. Good:)

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    DMT

    Hi i started with small capacity hard drive, now my hard drive is almost full. I want to change to bigger capacity hard drive. Can i do like that?

    1. Put the bigger capacity (say 1TB) to 2nd Hard Drive, and do the Mirroring.

    2. Then eject 1st Drive (original low cap 500GB).

    3. Then put new 1TB hard drive into 1st drive slot.

    will the files from 2nd drive will mirror to 1st new drive?

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